gripes

[Player Agent]

Post all gripes here, since the rosters aren't completely updated this will just be for missing players, messed up contracts etc. Even when the ratings are done you can only gripe for OTHER TEAMS not your own, your welcome .

[Wilt Chamberlian]

496 Kevin Love PF 20 6'10'' 260 C+ C C B B F
496 Kevin Love PF 20 6'10'' 260 B C+ C C+ B F

Kevin Love's scoring ratings are absolutely atrocious here and they are even worse when you factor in that his strength is probably really right . Love who was at 11 PPG as a rookie in limited minutes came in as a pretty good scorer . With his mix of strength/inside scoring he should have a B inside with strength being the biggest factor . Although he didn't expand his range out to the 3 point line yet at this point , he was a a Very good 79% from the FT line which should give him a good jump shot rating . Also he's never been known as a defender and with B as a rookie that has him developing to the A range in his prime which he shouldn't .

615 Brandon Roy SG 24 6'6'' 211 B- B C+ B- C- C
615 Brandon Roy SG 24 6'6'' 211 B B B B- C- C

In only his 2nd year in the league , Roy averaged 19.1/4.7/5.8 and his ratings don't reflect that . With his current ratings he won't be that good of a scorer and his ball handling definately needs a boost considering he had a 3:1 A/T ratio from the wing which is great . He should be more handling then passing because of his very low turnovers throughout his career

600 Amare Stoudemire PF 26 6'10'' 249 A C C- C+ B B
600 Amare Stoudemire PF 26 6'10'' 249 A- C C- C+ B B

A inside ? We all know Amare Stoudamire was very good but A inside is too much in my opinion

380 LeBron James SF 23 6'8'' 250 A B+ B+ B B B
380 LeBron James SF 23 6'8'' 250 A B+ B+ B C+ B

LeBron is a very good rebounder for his position but B puts him in the double digit range when in reality he's a career 7 RPG guy . He'll be able to get that with a C+ rating .

[Wilt Chamberlian]

Also Derrick Rose is 6'3" and was 19 when he entered the league

www.nba.com/playerfile/derrick_rose/career_stats.html

[Player Agent]

Feb 10, 2013 23:35:48 GMT -5 Wilt Chamberlian said:

496 Kevin Love PF 20 6'10'' 260 C+ C C B B F
496 Kevin Love PF 20 6'10'' 260 B C+ C C+ B F

Kevin Love's scoring ratings are absolutely atrocious here and they are even worse when you factor in that his strength is probably really right . Love who was at 11 PPG as a rookie in limited minutes came in as a pretty good scorer . With his mix of strength/inside scoring he should have a B inside with strength being the biggest factor . Although he didn't expand his range out to the 3 point line yet at this point , he was a a Very good 79% from the FT line which should give him a good jump shot rating . Also he's never been known as a defender and with B as a rookie that has him developing to the A range in his prime which he shouldn't .

615 Brandon Roy SG 24 6'6'' 211 B- B C+ B- C- C
615 Brandon Roy SG 24 6'6'' 211 B B B B- C- C

In only his 2nd year in the league , Roy averaged 19.1/4.7/5.8 and his ratings don't reflect that . With his current ratings he won't be that good of a scorer and his ball handling definately needs a boost considering he had a 3:1 A/T ratio from the wing which is great . He should be more handling then passing because of his very low turnovers throughout his career

600 Amare Stoudemire PF 26 6'10'' 249 A C C- C+ B B
600 Amare Stoudemire PF 26 6'10'' 249 A- C C- C+ B B

A inside ? We all know Amare Stoudamire was very good but A inside is too much in my opinion

380 LeBron James SF 23 6'8'' 250 A B+ B+ B B B
380 LeBron James SF 23 6'8'' 250 A B+ B+ B C+ B

LeBron is a very good rebounder for his position but B puts him in the double digit range when in reality he's a career 7 RPG guy . He'll be able to get that with a C+ rating .

Love-Dam I don't know what I did to Love, but ya I agree, I messed up there all stats have been changed.

Roy-done

Stoudemire-ran a test sim on this, and ya Amare is too good, I will tune his stats down a little

LeBron-done

[sheddy778]

How is Kevin love not a B inside and B outside...thats his game. That and rebounding of course

[themouth]

Well we are in 2009-2010, he only averaged 14.0ppg this year...

I see a problem about gripes being made only about other teams, we will only focus on star players. Noone cares about other GMs role players

[Player Agent]

I will keep looking through the file for role players doing to "well" and it's usually the stars that make leagues look "inflated" in my experience.

I'm looking for players who are more overrated then underrated. I don't really want to keep bumping players ratings up, atleast if people are griping for other teams players, they don't have any motives for making that player really good unless their trading for them or something.

And this is 2008-2009, not 2009/2010

[Wilt Chamberlian]

I know we're not supposed to gripe our own players but Luol Deng is severely underrated

362 Luol Deng SF 23 6'9'' 220 B- C+ C B+ C+ C
362 Luol Deng SF 23 6'9'' 220 B B C B+ C+ C

We're talking about a guy here who was coming off a season where he averaged 17 PPG on great efficiency as he 48% /40%/79% so I don't know how his jumpshot can be so low as those are elite wing player numbers . He wasn't yet a knockdown 3 point shooter at a high volume but he showed the mechanics with his great FT shooting so his jumpshot should be high and his 3 should be decent . As for his inside he got to the line at a decent clip and no way he scores his real life numbers with these ratings . A player with these current ratings wouldn't have gotten the 70 Million dollar contract he got . Also should have good potential left as he's developed his game alot more since then
www.nba.com/playerfile/luol_deng/career_stats.html

[ryu]

Rajon Rondo

C+ C A- A- C D to B- C A A C+ D

Reasoning: Rondo averaged 13 points per game in 08-09 he clearly won't get that with C+ C scoring. His Handles should be bumped he was one of the best passers in 08-09. His D should be A hes one of the best defensive PG's in the league and his rebounding to C+ is self explanatory dude is a rebounding machine for a PG.

www.basketball-reference.com/players/r/rondora01.html

[stephenlion]

are we doing the gripes again?

[kingtritan]

NVM cant do own players

[turkoz]

Kevin love B B C- C A B to B+ B+ C- C A B

Honestly kevin love is really underated he scored 26ppg that year shot 37% from the 3pt line and i think in the 11-12 season he one the 3pt contest also his FT% is 82% i think thats very good for a big man kevin love to me is one of the best 3pt shooters in the league right now and as for his inside he shot 44% i think thats pretty low but still i think he deserves to get a B+ inside to with a B B rating he wont get no where close to 26ppg

www.basketball-reference.com/players/l/loveke01.html

[Wilt Chamberlian]

Feb 13, 2013 23:23:10 GMT -5 turkoz said:

Kevin love B B C- C A B to B+ B+ C- C A B

Honestly kevin love is really underated he scored 26ppg that year shot 37% from the 3pt line and i think in the 11-12 season he one the 3pt contest also his FT% is 82% i think thats very good for a big man kevin love to me is one of the best 3pt shooters in the league right now and as for his inside he shot 44% i think thats pretty low but still i think he deserves to get a B+ inside to with a B B rating he wont get no where close to 26ppg

www.basketball-reference.com/players/l/loveke01.html

Love is good but B+ B+ is too good , maybe B B+ at the most

[turkoz]

Feb 13, 2013 23:29:27 GMT -5 Wilt Chamberlian said:

Feb 13, 2013 23:23:10 GMT -5 turkoz said:

Kevin love B B C- C A B to B+ B+ C- C A B

Honestly kevin love is really underated he scored 26ppg that year shot 37% from the 3pt line and i think in the 11-12 season he one the 3pt contest also his FT% is 82% i think thats very good for a big man kevin love to me is one of the best 3pt shooters in the league right now and as for his inside he shot 44% i think thats pretty low but still i think he deserves to get a B+ inside to with a B B rating he wont get no where close to 26ppg

www.basketball-reference.com/players/l/loveke01.html

Love is good but B+ B+ is too good , maybe B B+ at the most

yehh i wud be happy with a B B+ but yehh a B B is abit to low

[kingtritan]

Feb 13, 2013 23:29:27 GMT -5 Wilt Chamberlian said:

Feb 13, 2013 23:23:10 GMT -5 turkoz said:

Kevin love B B C- C A B to B+ B+ C- C A B

Honestly kevin love is really underated he scored 26ppg that year shot 37% from the 3pt line and i think in the 11-12 season he one the 3pt contest also his FT% is 82% i think thats very good for a big man kevin love to me is one of the best 3pt shooters in the league right now and as for his inside he shot 44% i think thats pretty low but still i think he deserves to get a B+ inside to with a B B rating he wont get no where close to 26ppg

www.basketball-reference.com/players/l/loveke01.html

Love is good but B+ B+ is too good , maybe B B+ at the most

Don't forget he had 26PPG that season. B B+ might barely come close tbh.